From KING 5, Seattle
November 30, 2007
From: Astronomy Picture of the Day
November 27, 2007
Robert Novak recently wrote a column about Mike Huckabee entitled, “The False Conservative.” In the column he said, “Huckabee is campaigning as a conservative, but serious Republicans know that he is a high-tax, protectionist, big-government advocate…
November 26, 2007
From: The Wall St. Journal
Can you put a price on faith? That is the question churchgoers are asking as the tradition of tithing — giving 10% of your income to the church — is increasingly challenged. Opponents of tithing say it is a misreading of the Bible….
The Day that Tithing Ended—To Now Be Led by the Holy Spirit
Compiled by Jeff Fenske
The better, new covenant way:
John 16:13 (WEB) …when he, the Spirit of truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth….
Gal. 5:18 (WEB) But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
Rom. 8:1-4, 14 (WEB) 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; 4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. … 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God.
1 John 2:20, 27 (WEB) 20 You have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all have knowledge. … 27 As for you, the anointing which you received from him remains in you, and you don’t need for anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, you will remain in him.
Paul never mentions tithing, but says giving should be determined in our hearts, the deepest seat of our emotions. Giving isn’t meant to be a brain-only, formula based, emotion free decision. We are to feel right, deep within, about to whom and how much we give.
2Cor. 9:7 (WEB) Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart; not grudgingly, or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver.
Tithing puts people under a curse?/ the day tithing ended/ ”fallen away from grace”/ led by the Spirit:
Gal. 3:10 (WEB) For as many as are of the works of the law are under a curse. …
Gal. 3:13 (WEB) Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us. For it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree.” [The Day that Tithing Ended] …
Gal. 4:4 (WEB) But when the fullness of the time came, God sent out his Son, born to a woman, born under the law, 5 that he might redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of children. …
Gal. 4:21 (WEB) Tell me, you that desire to be under the law, don’t you listen to the law? …
Gal. 5:3 (WEB) Yes, I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 You are alienated from Christ, you who desire to be justified by the law. You have fallen away from grace. …
Gal. 5:18 (WEB) But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
The elders gathered in Jerusalem to determine what should be retained from the old covenant, and tithing wasn’t one of them:
Acts 15:5 (WEB) But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to charge them to keep the law of Moses.”
Acts 15:6 (WEB) The apostles and the elders were gathered together to see about this matter. …
Acts 15:22 (WEB) Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole assembly, to choose men out of their company, and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, chief men among the brothers. 23 They wrote these things by their hand: “The apostles, the elders, and the brothers, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia: greetings. 24 Because we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, ‘You must be circumcised and keep the law,’ to whom we gave no commandment; 25 it seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose out men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who themselves will also tell you the same things by word of mouth. 28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay no greater burden on you than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality, from which if you keep yourselves, it will be well with you. Farewell.”
The commandment to tithe was “annulled because of its weakness and uselessness.” Now we have a better way, through which we draw near to God, to be led by Him:
Heb. 7:4 (WEB) Now consider how great this man [Melchizedek] was, to whom even Abraham, the patriarch, gave a tenth out of the best spoils. 5 They indeed of the sons of Levi who receive the priest’s office have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brothers, though these have come out of the loins of Abraham, 6 but he whose genealogy is not counted from them has taken tithes of Abraham, and has blessed him who has the promises. 7 But without any dispute the less is blessed by the better. 8 tithes, but there one receives tithes of whom it is testified that he lives. 9 So to say, through Abraham even Levi, who receives tithes, has paid tithes, …. 15 there arises another priest, 16 who has been made, not after the law of a fleshly commandment, but after the power of an endless life: 17 for it is testified, “You are a priest forever,
According to the order of Melchizedek.”
Heb. 7:18 (WEB) For there is an annulling of a foregoing commandment because of its weakness and uselessness 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in thereupon of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.
The much-quoted, Jesus’ admonition to tithe applied only to before he died on the cross and before the veil was rent (so we can all enter the Holy of Holies to talk to God directly). The Levitical priests are now all replaced by Jesus, our High Priest, who then sent the Holy Spirit to lead us into all truth (including to know to whom and how much to give).
Matt. 23:23 (WEB) “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin,a and have left undone the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and faith. But you ought to have done these, and not to have left the other undone.
Tithing or the Carriage Driver? [From the Let Us Be ONE prophecy]
Baruch: “Not only is DECEPTION of the church possible, it was PROPHESIED TO HAPPEN!” — Jesus said “IN THE LAST DAYS THE MAJORITY WILL BE DECEIVED, take heed that it doesn’t happen to you” — “FALSE TEACHERS are actually SPEAKING SPELLS with the words of their FALSE DOCTRINES!”
November 24, 2007
From The Associated Press:
Former ORU Regent Harry McNevin, who quit the board in 1987 because of the misspending he alleged he witnessed, called the resignation “inevitable.”
“You can’t take the sacrifices of God’s people and use them any old way,” he said. “It’s been 20 years that they’ve been doing the same things that I became aware of.”
“We still haven’t heard any admission of wrongdoing or any kind of humility or contrition.”
November 14, 2007
I was just listening to The Rick Williams Show on Ron Paul Radio http://www.ronpaulradio.com , where you never know what you’re going to hear.
Rick said he was kind of depressed by the bad news about the economy, but then he realizes that the good news about the bad economy is that it’s driving Ron Paul’s campaign–along with the backlash against the war.
November 11, 2007
This started as a response to a close friend who was thinking this way about why Pat has endorsed Rudy:
To me, it seems obvious why Robertson endorsed Giuliani. He’s supporting Giuliani against Romney.
He’d rather have a liberal than a Mormon.
A partial explanation.
If Robertson is so anti-Mormon, then why did he allow Romney to give the commencement address at Regent?
Pat stated why he is supporting Giuliani, because basically he wants the most pro-war President possible.
“The overriding issue before the American people, is the defense of our population against the bloodlust of Islamic terrorists,” Robertson told the National Press Club audience. “Our world faces deadly peril…and we need a leader with a bold vision who is not afraid to tackle the challenges ahead.”
Pat recently, again stated how right he was by calling for Chavez’ assassination.
Robertson is amillennialist, right, thinking the millennium is now? And apparently he’s counting on military might to get ‘er done; though, in reality he’s actually supporting Satan’s globalist, one-world-government agenda, for these wars seem to me to be designed to take out the opposition to the one-world government.
Why doesn’t Robertson ever support the candidate with the most Christian values at the beginning of the race, when they need name recognition and support? Why didn’t he support Keyes in ‘90, but loudly supported Bush? Why has he totally dissed Paul? Ron Paul would have a huge chance of winning had the religious right leaders supported him from early on. He still could win if people would become aware of what he could do for America, but most people still don’t even know who he is. No prominent religious leader will give him even one interview, let alone help America understand why Paul’s policies are so Godly, powerful, and loving.
Robertson unconstitutionally wants government to control people, to push his agenda. Paul wants government off of people’s backs, so the states can decide matters that aren’t in the Constitution. Ron Paul is hope for America. Giulliani will continue its destruction. And only Paul can beat Hillary. Unless Hillary’s evil acts get more coverage.
In the ‘70s, I actually enjoyed very, very much watching The 700 Club. It actually had a lot of good, sound Christian teaching on it. But when Pat turned it into a political platform along with religious soundbites, it no longer appealed to me, but felt weird and yukky. And more than one female co-host has had serious problems largely from their experiences with Pat. It is said that Danuta Soderman no longer claims to be a Christian.
Danuta Soderman, Pat Robertson’s former colleague and former “700 Club” co-host, told Freedom Writer that Robertson’s strange views hinder the advancement of the Christian Coalition. She said Robertson’s unusual and extreme beliefs sunk his 1988 presidential campaign and now impairs the Christian Coalition.
And Sheila Walsh had a “nervous breakdown” while working with Pat. I’ve always liked Sheila:
Ideological differences with Robertson and general feelings of hopelessness and depression After leaving Robertson’s enterprises in 1992 she sought therapy for her depression, eventually returning to college at Fuller Theological Seminary in California to take on doctoral studies in theology. Pat Robertson explained her departure from CBN as the result of a “Nervous Breakdown” brought on by the tremendous demands of her work with CBN. He asked his viewers to keep her in their prayers and ask God to give her the strength to continue doing his work. brought Walsh to re-examine her life’s direction.
Is it possible that Pat has become a wolf in sheep’s clothing? Has the love of money and maybe even power overtaken Pat? This is serious, and he’s leading millions astray, politically and spiritually.
America should change the channel.
Pat Robertson ANSWERS TO 200 OF LIFE’S MOST PROBING QUESTIONS
THOMAS NELSON PUBLISHERS NASHVILLE
In determining a giving pattern, the Christian should consider 10 percent as an irreducible minimum. We belong to the Lord and so do all our possessions. Therefore:, what we give should be determined by God’s leading in our lives [Exactly. “God’s leading, period.” Not a percentage from the Old Covenant as being a starting point, designed to finance the Levites. Pastors aren’t of the Levitical priesthood, and we are now capable of being Spirit-led – jeff] may give 25 percent, others 50 percent. Some might use 10 percent to live on and give away 90 percent.
We give as God has blessed us. I believe there is also merit in the concept of anticipatory tithing. Consider the income that you anticipate receiving, and tithe as if you already had it.
Tithing was in the old covenant, Old Testament law so the Levitical priesthood would have income no matter what. Now that Jesus died on the cross and the Holy Spirit has been given, the law is now written in Christians’ hearts. So the Holy Spirit now helps us determine how much and where to give. This is the new and better way spoken of in Hebrews 7 and:
2 Cor. 9:7: Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart….
In Acts 15, the elders decided to keep only a few practices from the old covenant, none of which was tithing.
Teaching viewers to give 10% of their income helps keep The 700 Club on the air whether it’s God’s will or not. Many ‘churches’ do the same, teaching ‘benchmark’ tithing (10% should be the minimum).
But Pat goes one step further:
“I believe there is also merit in the concept of anticipatory tithing. Consider the income that you anticipate receiving, and tithe as if you already had it.”
Paul warned us about the love of $$money$$:
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some have been led astray from the faith in their greed, and have pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” 1Tim. 6:10 (WEB)
TV preacher Pat Robertson has repeatedly criticized the Bush administration over its handling of the crisis in Liberia without once mentioning his own personal business interests in the country.
In recent days, Robertson has used his nationally broadcast television show to charge that the U.S. government has sought to destabilize Liberia and oust President Charles Taylor. Although Taylor is a brutal dictator under indictment for war crimes by the United Nations, he is a business partner of Robertson.