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December 9, 2008

Louie Giglio: How GREAT Is Our GOD — The Heavens Proclaim the GLORY of GOD!

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Transcription and summary by Jeff Fenske

“The Whirlpool galaxy…contains 300 billion stars…, and it is one of hundreds of billions of other galaxies in the known universe that God has made.”

Part 1

The sun [an average sized star] is a million times the size of the earth.

Betelgeuse, a red supergiant star, is twice the size of the earth’s orbit around the sun!

And the largest star, Canis Majoris, “the big dog star,” …. “If the earth were a golf ball, Canis Majoris would be the height of Mount Everest!“

Part 2

“Sin has a way of shrinking God down in our minds and puffing us up in our own estimation. But just a glance into the universe that God has made resizes everything in a heartbeat. …

We are worshiping an unrivaled, uncontested God of all kind of might and power and glory and awe! There is none like Him, anywhere in all of creation!”

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

“There are millions and millions and millions of microscopic crosses holding you together right now.”

Sadly (this is so sad—because what preceded this was so awesome!), Louie uses the laminin, cross theory to support what is Satan’s greatest deception—once-saved-always-saved, OSAS, eternal security, “I’m okay; you’re okay”—saying the exact opposite of what Jesus taught in John 15 (“If you abide….”) and what the NT writers say elsewhere.

The CHIEF PILLAR of Eternal Security (OSAS) Toppled! addresses this passage directly.

Giglio says what Jesus clearly did not say, no matter what Matt Redman’s song says over and over and over: “You never let go,” each time it’s played on the radio over and over and over:

“He said, ‘I will hold you. Even when you let go of me I’m not going to let go of you.’”

What matters is what the Word of God says:

We have freedom in Christ if we abide in Him.

Related: Total Energy of the Stars in the Universe!


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15 Comments »

  1. I am confused. Are you in agreement with Louies message, or do you disagree?

    Comment by Daniel — January 22, 2009 @ 2:57 am

  2. Thanks, Daniel!

    I added a few word above that should clarify that I think the majority of this presentation is awesome to the max! But then he brings in the deceptive salvation heresy that is commonly taught in the U.S. today, and is what I believe the number one reason our country is on the verge of extinction.

    It’s time to come out from them and be separate.

    If you’re interested in exactly what I believe on this subject, I have 20 posts in my “Who goes to heaven?” category, currently, which is in the categories pull-down menu, above right. And I specifically lay out what the Bible really does clearly teach about who goes to heaven in my “Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way” article.

    Thanks for asking, and helping me be more clear in this article!

    God bless!!!

    Jeff : )

    Comment by Jeff Fenske — January 22, 2009 @ 10:45 am

  3. The verse Hebrews 10:26 is speaking about the people who have “heard/knows” what the truth is but did not accept Christ as their savior. Also told to us in 10:39 that we are not the same people being referred to in vs 26.

    Once you have accepted Christ as your savior your sins are forgiven past, present, and future. And you will have eternal life. You will still sin after you become a child of the King, because you are still of the flesh, and you need to confess your sins because unconfessed sin hinders prayers. Psalms 66:18 It is like talking to your best friend (GOD) knowing you have done something that is wrong and would hurt them, you would apologize to your best friend wouldn’t you? Isn’t it awesome to know once you have accepted him you are His forever, but I would be ashamed to stand before him doing things that have displeased him without owning up to it and telling him how sorry I am.

    Jeri

    Comment by Jeri — March 2, 2009 @ 8:56 pm

  4. Dear Jeri,

    Thank you for posting, but please look at this text again.

    Verses 29-30 show beyond the shadow of a doubt that the writer is referring to born-again Christians. I’ll bold the key parts.

    Hebrews: 10:26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and a fierceness of fire which will devour the adversaries. 28 A man who disregards Moses’ law [old covenant - ed.] dies without compassion on the word of two or three witnesses. 29 How much worse punishment, do you think, will he be judged worthy of, who has trodden under foot the Son of God, and has counted the blood of the covenant with which he was sanctified an unholy thing, and has insulted the Spirit of grace [new covenant - ed.]? 30 For we know him who said, “Vengeance belongs to me,” says the Lord, “I will repay.” Again, “The Lord will judge his people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

    32 But remember the former days, in which, after you were enlightened, you endured a great struggle with sufferings; 33 partly, being exposed to both reproaches and oppressions; and partly, becoming partakers with those who were treated so. 34 For you both had compassion on me in my chains, and joyfully accepted the plundering of your possessions, knowing that you have for yourselves a better possession and an enduring one in the heavens. 35 Therefore don’t throw away your boldness, which has a great reward. 36 For you need endurance so that, having done the will of God, you may receive the promise.

    37 “In a very little while, he who comes will come, and will not wait.

    38 But the righteous will live by faith [haven't we heard this quoted from pulpits all over this land — but not with this warning that follows. This is called lying through omission. They usually omit this entire (10:26-39) passage, actually, choosing to only quote the Romans-1 version - ed.]. If he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him.”

    39 But we are not of those who shrink back to destruction, but of those who have faith to the saving of the soul.

    Verse 39 is the positive note the writer ends on which doesn’t negate the rest of what he so clearly said. True, saving faith isn’t mere belief, but also position, right standing with Christ, based on obedience. Ie. verse 36: “having done the will of God, you may receive….”

    This entire text applies to born-again Christians, and is consistent with what the entire New Testament teaches when read without OSAS glasses and with a heart to understand the Author’s intent.

    But unfortunately, most American ‘Christians’ have been given the glasses, reinforced with prayers (James-3 curses) that we would believe the mainstream doctrine, and it’s often hard to get them off without prayer.

    This one text, by itself, completely disproves “once saved, always saved.” But there are many other texts which are also stand-alone debunkers, which I include in “Who-Goes-to-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the way.”

    We must, by God’s grace (the empowerment of the Holy Spirit) overcome. The new covenant is conditional just as the old covenant was. But we have a whole new standard now that the Holy Spirit lives in us. Now, Jesus says in Matthew 5 that hate is murder and lust is now adultery, etc..

    And he ends chapter 5 with this:

    43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Don’t even the tax collectors do the same? 47 If you only greet your friends, what more do you do than others? Don’t even the tax collectors do the same? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

    The world is eagerly awaiting to see the real thing happen in us: Jesus’ call for us to be ONE in Him realized. Then the world will know. (John 17)

    We can do it!!!

    This doesn’t mean we never worry, procrastinate, etc.. But we won’t sin the sins in Paul’s who-will-not-inherit-the-Kingdom list in Galatians 5.

    Freedom when we’re truly in Christ!

    Jeff Fenske : )

    Comment by Jeff Fenske — March 3, 2009 @ 12:15 am

  5. I will just leave you with these verses to 2 Timothy 2:14-19

    Comment by Jeri — March 3, 2009 @ 5:01 am

  6. Where can I view the sermon notes from Pastor Giglio’s “Great Is Our God” sermon? Anyone have any ideas?

    Comment by Albert Cooper — April 27, 2009 @ 11:34 am

  7. Albert,

    It’s likely there is no transcript out there. I transcribed these quotes myself.

    God bless!

    Jeff : )

    Comment by Jeff Fenske — April 27, 2009 @ 1:17 pm

  8. Jeff is it possible for you to forward me your full transcription? I’m preparing for a workshop and could greatly benefit from it. I’m running against the clock to transcribe it myself.

    Comment by alnert cooper — April 27, 2009 @ 2:19 pm

  9. jeff, is it possible for you to forward me your transciption? I am working on a workshop that I would love to incorporate this tour. However, I am against the clock and just don’t have the time to transcribe myself.

    Comment by albert cooper — April 27, 2009 @ 4:47 pm

  10. Albert,

    Sorry. I only transcribed what I posted.

    jeff

    Comment by Jeff Fenske — April 27, 2009 @ 9:27 pm

  11. I know I’m a few months behind, but hebrews 10:26 says “if we deliberately keep sinning agter we have received the knowledge of the truth.”

    It doesn’t say that we have ACCEPTED the truth, or are born again. It plainly says, we have RECEIVED the knowledge. Which makes us without excuse for not accepting the gospel.

    If sin could pluck us out of the hand of God, what kind of power would He have? If we have to stop sinning to come to God, we’d all be so very lost. And hopeless. And we’d have to EARN our salvation. That’s exactly what’s so radical about Chrisitianity. Jesus’ sacrifice was a gift. Once for all. We deserved death, but He took it for us. Whether we keep sinning or not–cause, PS, we’ll always keep sinning. That’s MY Jesus. Not one that depends on us to stay in His hand, but holds us firmly in His loving grasp.

    Comment by Kayti — June 9, 2009 @ 6:45 am

  12. Dear Kayti,

    In comment #4, above, please look closely at verse 29. The “willfully sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth” people, spoken of here, had been sanctified by the blood of Jesus according to the new covenant.

    The writer is clearly talking to and warning born-again believers, and there are many texts like these in the New Testament that get hardly any pulpit-time, or air-time over radio and TV.

    The deception in the last days will be great, the Bible warns. And it really is!

    See: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way. It’s all laid out what the Bible really teaches. The deception happens when parts of verses and chapters and books of the Bible are pulled out and twisted to mean something they clearly don’t, when the entire text is read.

    This happens over and over. It’s amazing how it’s been pulled off.

    Also, Jesus’ unable-to-be-plucked-from-His-hand illustration actually teaches the opposite of what is commonly taught, as Jeff Paton clearly points out here: The CHIEF PILLAR of Eternal Security (OSAS) Toppled!

    Those who can’t be plucked out are those who hear and obey (John 10:26).

    And you say: “If we have to stop sinning to come to God….” I don’t know anyone who teaches that. We have to repent, for sure. But until we are born-again and have the Holy Spirit in us we don’t have the grace (or the ability, the means) to stop sinning.

    Grace isn’t a license to sin, but the enablement to overcome sin, as we are led by and empowered by the Holy Spirit. We are promised that we will never be tempted above our ability to bear the trial. Right?

    Another clear example of how we’ve been deceived by pastors (who were probably deceived by other pastors) is the mishandling of Romans 8:1. “There is therefore no condemnation” for who? What does the rest of the verse say? And the rest of the chapter?

    Only “those who are led by the Holy Spirit are the children of God,” Paul says in verses 13 and 14:

    For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God.

    And those who aren’t under condemnation are those who are actually and experientially “in Christ Jesus.”

    “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.”

    Rupert Murdoch’s NIV omits the last part, but it’s still in verse 4.

    Being that we’re in the last days in which God promised the deception will be great, It’s crucial that we research what the Bible really says for ourselves. For what is taught from most pulpits in America is a lie, based largely on the teachings of Martin Luther, who didn’t get it. See my “Luther Didn’t Get It” category for proof, if you’re interested.

    God bless you!

    Jeff Fenske

    Comment by Jeff Fenske — June 9, 2009 @ 8:09 am

  13. “fill me with your spirit – lead me to your full blessing and reward”

    JOSEPH – po box 24 02 15 – wuppertal 42289 germany
    likes to hear from you !

    p.s.please send infos on christians living in communtiy where to
    take part with

    Comment by Joseph — July 4, 2009 @ 4:29 am

  14. This is awsome! And sooo true. i hope tha t many more people will get to see this!!! god bless

    Comment by Robyn Grierson — October 5, 2009 @ 1:28 am

  15. I first saw all three dvds at church in 2008. I felt so tiny :)How great is Our GOD!!!!

    Comment by Robyn Grierson — October 5, 2009 @ 1:30 am


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