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May 21, 2008

The Low-Cut Top Epidemic: May We Be Holy

I’d like to address the current ‘fad’ of women wearing low-cut tops, because I’ve spoken with both men and women who call themselves ‘Christians’ who actually told me that it’s okay for Christian women to dress this way.

Fairly recently, a pastor even responded: “how low is too low,” after I brought up to him that women on staff were wearing low-cut tops during church services. I probably wouldn’t have said anything, but this pastor had been emphasizing how he wanted us to do what Jesus did, and I was very enthusiastic about being a part of this. But then I started seeing a pattern that I hoped wasn’t a big red flag that would put a kibosh on what I had hoped would be real Christianity.

I noticed how he would teach over and over the promises that Paul wrote, while glossing over the adjacent passages that clearly mentioned the cost. He would expound on the glorious inheritance that is ours, now, as children of God without teaching what Paul stated is required to be a child of God.

In the 80s, I was blessed to be able to attend a church in which some the elders’ wives [thank you, Carol & the others!] taught the women specifics on dressing modestly. It wasn’t over-the-top stuff like women could only wear dresses, never pants, but rather practical ways to live out what the Bible teaches, to dress modestly. Basically, tight and revealing clothing were not appropriate for Godly women, because inappropriate attire could be a stumbling block for guys.

And in this setting, we guys and gals saw God move in many significant ways during some of our Bible school classes and during “Prayer and Praise.” It was great!

Today, few churches have the conviction and courage to teach the truth about modesty. And lust reigns in many a “Christian’” heart—both men and women. And this is not just one of the issues that will keep the kingdom of God happening among us, this is absolutely also a salvation issue, which I cover in Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures.

This is really a big deal; though, many who have truly been born-again now have their consciences so seared by the lack of modesty in our society that they no longer feel shame when wearing revealing clothing or when willfully looking. And it’s come to the point that some “Christians” will actually say that ‘Christian’ women wearing low-cut tops is no big deal.

Perhaps there are some women who don’t understand how visually God made most guys to be—how attractive the female form is to most guys. I say “most guys,” because perhaps there are some men who really do have the gift of singleness, and aren’t in this way attracted. But most of us do not have this gift.

I’d like to share an experience that I had about 20 years ago, long before the low-top craze. I was attending an exercise class in a small studio. The instructor was female. I was doing just fine, concentrating on her instructions until she bent over, facing us. I freaked! She was close to my type, and I was seeing things I shouldn’t see.

I think she saw in the expression of my face my reaction. And I never returned; though, doing these exercises probably would have benefited my health greatly.

Since then, I’ve learned to train my eyes to quickly look away (some call this bouncing the eyes), for when in close proximity, the field of view of non-peripherial human vision is so narrow that we can look at a woman’s face without seeing clearly what is below. But ladies, most guys are not going to be this careful. But every Christian man should be. For example, Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount teaching is so crystal clear:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery;’ but I tell you that everyone who gazes at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart. If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you. For it is more profitable for you that one of your members should perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Gehenna. If your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off, and throw it away from you. For it is more profitable for you that one of your members should perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Gehenna. (Matthew 5:27-30)

Likewise, Paul was clear in his teaching toward Christian women:

I will therefore that men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. (1 Timothy 2:8-10)

One online author interprets shamefacedness this way:

The word shamefacedness comes from a Greek word which means literally “downcast eyes,” but it is meant in a good sense and refers to one who is ashamed to overstep the limit of womanly reserve.

In my Let Us Be One prophecy, God said it this way in the chapter I call Jesus’ Dress Code:

My people, live as one, not judging one another, being critical of how they dress, one more popular than another. We are all different. Everyone is unique. Give people space, as long as it’s holy. You need to have righteousness girded about your loins. Hide yourself. They don’t need to see everything. That is for your husband, only him. Be careful; this is right.

God designed women to be very attractive to men. And there are certain things that only the woman’s huband should see—no matter what the Devil through society is telling us.

Freedom in Christ is in part freedom from actual lust demons that drive probably the majority of Americans to not be free in the lust area. Not giving the demons a place at all is the only way to be lust-demon free.

We need to “be careful. This is right.”

Praise God!

Jeff Fenske : )

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5 Comments »

  1. What are you saying about modesty being a salvation issue? Are you saying that it’s necessary for salvation, or that sinning, even in this area, is disobedience?

    Comment by MInTheGap — June 13, 2008 @ 10:36 am

  2. Dear MinTheGap,

    I’m not sure of what you’re asking. Please correct me if I’m not fully enough addressing your question. The first part of your question is very clear; I’ll focus mainly on that: “Are you saying that [modesty] is necessary for salvation?”

    My “Who-Goes-to-Heaven-Scriptures” article http://onecanhappen.wordpress.com/2008/01/14/who-goes-to-heaven-scriptures gives the overall context. Lewdness is JUST ONE ISSUE OF MANY that is keeping many ‘Christians’ from maintaining a right enough relationship with God and other people.

    What does the Bible say? Jesus spoke to us guys directly in the Sermon on the Mount, when he called just the thought of lusting after women, ‘adultery,’ and how it would be better for us to lose body parts that we could allow ourselves to stumble with than to lose our whole bodies in hell.

    Jesus didn’t address the issue directly of women who would dress in such a way that could make it easy for men to jeopardize their salvation because of what they saw. So we must look elsewhere.

    Paul said in Romans 8 the general principle that we can only truly be children of God if we are led by the Spirit. And to be led by the Spirit, we must put to death the deeds of the body:

    12 So then, brothers, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13 For if you live after the flesh, you must die; but IF by the Spirit you PUT TO DEATH the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For AS MANY AS ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT of God, these are CHILDREN of God.

    Christianity is about abiding in Christ—being led by Him. It’s not just about not doing certain things. But He does give us lists of things we can’t do in order to abide in Him. One such list is in Galatians 5. Here I quote 5:16-25 & 6:7-9. Lust/lewdness is just one of the common-in-American-’Christianity sins that are keeping ‘Christians’ from inheriting eternal life.

    This text also mentions ‘hatred,’ ‘outbursts of anger,’ ‘envy,’ and even ‘jealousy’ as salvation excluders—in addition to four terms pertaining to lust, including ‘adultery,’ which Jesus says is not just what we do, but what we think, now that we live in the new covenant—now that the Holy Spirit lives in those who have been born-again—to lead us into all truth.

    Gal. 5

    16 But I say, WALK BY THE SPIRIT, AND YOU WON’T FULFILL THE LUST OF THE FLESH. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one other, that you may not do the things that you desire. 18 But IF YOU ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT, YOU ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW.

    19 Now the WORKS OF THE FLESH are obvious, which are: ADULTERY, SEXUAL IMMORALITY, UNCLEANNESS, LUSTFULNESS ['LEWDNESS' NKJV], 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that THOSE WHO PRACTISE SUCH THINGS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

    22 But the FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT is love, joy, PEACE, patience, kindness, GOODNESS, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and SELF-CONTROL. Against such things there is no law. 24 THOSE WHO BELONG TO CHRIST HAVE CRUCIFIED THE FLESH WITH ITS PASSIONS AND LUSTS. 25 If we live by the Spirit, let’s also walk by the Spirit. …

    6:7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that will he also reap. 8 For HE WHO SOWS TO HIS OWN FLESH WILL FROM THE FLESH REAP CORRUPTION. BUT HE WHO SOWS TO THE SPIRIT WILL FROM THE SPIRIT REAP ETERNAL LIFE. 9 Let us not be weary in doing good, for we will reap in due season, if we don’t give up.

    We must be holy—in God’s arms—under His protection. Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit. “Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.” We can’t just do our own thing.

    The fruit of the Spirit is goodness, self-control———and peace and joy!

    When we submit to God, we’ll not only have eternal security in the true, biblical sense—where we can rest—but we’ll also have peace and joy—the ULTIMATE ADORNMENT!

    This is what God wants. And only in Him, under His authority ["that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety"] will we have eternal life!

    It’s so clear. We shouldn’t do anything that puts us into the danger zone. Peace and joy is the fruit of staying in the place of safety—in our Father’s arms and out of the lust demons’ clutches.

    Free in Christ—resting in His arms—full of love—shining!

    Jeff Fenske : )

    Comment by Jeff Fenske — June 14, 2008 @ 6:13 am

  3. Maybe you touched on this already and I missed it, but I think there is a larger principle at work here.

    Especially in a local body, Christians should be the most caring of one another. They are to be a picture to the world of Christ’s character. Incumbent with that, then, is a need to bear with one another (Co 3:13).

    Suppose young lady wears revealing clothes to the worship service. I’m sure that this is not at all an unusual occurrence. If she really loved the body of believers, she would not want to cause men to lust after her or at the very least not want to cause a distraction. By the same token, the rest of the body would need to accept her lack of sensitivity, lack of maturity, or whatever. However, this does not mean the situation doesn’t have to be addressed.

    I heard an interesting analogy along these lines. Suppose a guy were to come into the worship service wearing earbuds and his iPOD blasting so loud as to cause a distraction to others. Wouldn’t the deacons or ushers say something to that fellow? Why is that any different from a young (or old) lady who comes to church with her bosom falling out of her top?

    I don’t see this as a salvation issue. I see it as an opportunity for all to learn how to conduct themselves as Jesus would have them to.

    Comment by Jake — June 17, 2008 @ 8:33 am

  4. Just to comment that women have problems with lust also. Women are attracted to men’s looks, if they weren’t, why are there so many men at the gym working out and getting buff, because they know we have eyes too! This is not just a one-sided issue, it needs to be addressed by men and women. Don’t just blame the women for the lust problem, it goes both ways!

    Comment by April Sunshine — August 4, 2008 @ 5:01 pm

  5. Dear April Sunshine,

    Nice pen name, and thanks for responding. May we all come to understand whatever is really true in this area. And may we all be holy, whatever that may be.

    This is a very difficult area to understand because we’ll never be able to see firsthand the way the opposite sex sees.

    I was hoping in this article for women to more fully realize how big of an issue this is for men, and that pastors and older women in the church (especially) should be leading the women into holiness in this area. And in this particular church, the older women were the main offenders, and the pastor didn’t see anything wrong with this.

    And I used to attend a church in which the older women did lead by example and by actually teaching the younger women about modesty, a theme that Paul addresses towards women.

    So I was writing from my own personal experience and the burden that’s on my own heart. To what degree this works the other way, only you women know for sure, and maybe you could write to inform us men the specifics in how we need to be more careful.

    From what I’ve seen and heard, and from what I read in the Bible, it seems that there is a *magnitude* of difference between how guys react when they see a woman who is revealing too much, verses how a woman would act if a man would wear tight jeans or a low-cut top. And guys shouldn’t wear tight jeans, either, but I think it’s a far different situation.

    You say “women are attracted to men’s looks.” Being attracted to a person isn’t a sin. It’s when we’re thinking things beyond mere attraction when lust happens. And this seems to be far easier with guys. And apparently, God wired us this way for a reason.

    I’m not saying this doesn’t happen with women also through just the eyes, but I never heard women talk about how guys were dressed at this church, for example. But a woman did express to me how she was concerned with how these women were dressed.

    And what is the emphasis in the New Testament? Jesus warned the men about going to hell for lusting after women with their eyes (Mt. 5, above). He didn’t say anything to the women regarding this. And Paul exorted the women to be very careful in how they dressed (1 Tim., above). He didn’t say the same to men.

    And in part of the “Let Us Be ONE” prophesy God gave me, which I call “Jesus’ Dress Code” http://onecanhappen.wordpress.com/2008/01/07/jesus-dress-code, Jesus addressed His comments about hiding oneself to women, not men. And I didn’t have anything to do with what I was writing down. I was just the scribe.

    There is a reason why women are the main readers of romance novels and guys the main addicts to still pictures of porn.

    I’m addressing what I see the epidemic to be. To fine tune this so that we’re all 100% right with God and people in this area, it’s probably great for us to discuss other aspects of this as well so we can be ONE with each other and ONE with God.

    And no matter what people wear, we’re all (men and women) responsible to not let ourselves sin by making sure we don’t look at what we know we shouldn’t. We should never let ourselves go beyond the line of attraction into lust. And that line may be far different for men and women.

    Lust freedom, y’all!

    Jeff Fenske : )

    Comment by Jeff Fenske — August 4, 2008 @ 11:02 pm


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